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 07-13-2005, 19:23 Post: 113420
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We are currently doing the same search. We have driven and I have researched heavily, the Liberty CRD, and although it is a nice small vehicle, it neither has the mileage (21 city 26 highway on the sticker - 24mpg average, direct from an owner I know) or the size/comfort level we are looking for.

For the $25K + that they want for a Limited Liberty CRD, we are going to go with an "Off Lease" used Grand Cherokee Limited. Having owned three Grand Cherokees in the past ('94, '96, '99) we were very happy with the quality and performance. (2003 Grand Limited with everything and 34k miles is going about $20K right now) A Grand with the 4.7 V-8 will do 16-20mpg. I'll give up the 5 mpg advantage of the CRD for the luxury and size of the Grand. After you sit in and drive both you will agree.

I love diesels, and would gladly buy one, but I am a bit disappointed by the Liberty CRD. Maybe the motor will work better in the Wrangler next year (hopefully).

edit: A unitised body is fine for your application, too. Like stated before, the only thing a full frame wil give you is more towing ability.






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My experience with Grand Cherokees:

'94 had 185,000 trouble free miles on it (5.2 V-8)
'96 has 120,000 now and still going on the 4.0 six(Owned by the out-laws now)
'99 had 40,000 on its 4.0 six when it was traded it for the '01 Jetta TDI.

We are now looking for a 2003 or 2004 with the 4.7 V-8 and less than 36K. Pilot and 4Runners are great, but too much $$ for me, one doesn't see those on the used market (That must mean something!).






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I have a very good friend who is a Volkswagon Tech, and he was very vocal in NOT recomenting the Touareg, diesel or gas. They are an electrical nightmare right now. Untill they get all the electrical and computor bugs worked out, they are a $65K boat anchor ($75K for the diesel!).






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